Why hello there. You've reached Lucifer Morningstar. Sorry I can't come to the phone right now. Leave a message after the tone and I might get back to you. Make it good~ Byyyyyyye~
[It isn't long before a portal opens and Lucifer steps through. He sees Macaque and takes him in for a moment before moving quickly to his side, setting down his bags nearby.]
Do you want to tell me what happened first or do you need physical contact and quiet first?
Those are words Lucifer never thought he would hear. Not the asking if they can do both because of course they can. He is getting settled in the nest and wrapping his arms around Macaque when he says those five words. His eyes widen and it takes him a few seconds to respond.
Macaque brings his leaden arms up to cling to Lucifer. He's projecting misery in every way.
"He told me that he's dating Wylan. A kid, and my boyfriend's kid. And I--"
"When I first met MK, he was a kid to me. It took a lot of mental work to see him as a peer instead, after I found out he was interested in me. And now, with him dating someone younger than my daughter, and the son of my significant other..."
"And I couldn't ask him to break things off with Wylan. The poor boy would be even more miserable than he already is."
He burrows against Lucifer's shoulder. "I said maybe we should think about it for a while, see what we can do, but he wanted to break things off while we try and see if there's a way around it. I think he thinks that having that conversation again would be even harder."
MK and Wylan. Learning under any other circumstances he would think it cute. Wylan could have someone happy and bright to help bring him out of the darkness he seems to settle into. But it cost this. He holds Macaque tight and runs his fingers through Macaque's hair, doing his best to listen and comfort his mate. He looks miserable, he sounds miserable, he somehow even feels small and sad in his arms.
"And now that he's dating someone you see as a child, especially Wash's son, it weakens what you did to bring MK up as a peer in your eyes." It sounds complicated and horribly painful, to lose something they both seemed to fight for for so long.
"Perhaps for him it would be? I don't know. What about you? Do you think that would be harder or easier if another solution couldn't be found?"
Macaque feels small and sad. He feels like complete hell in every way. Being in Lucifer's arms helps a little, but nothing can truly help right now.
"Yeah. I'm not sure I can do the mental gymnastics to see MK as my peer when he's with Wylan, while I see Wylan as a kid. It seems like something big would have to change in my mind, and I just don't know. It's all making my head spin, and I miss MK terribly." Even though it's only been a few hours.
"I was just saying how happy I was. It's like I cursed myself."
Macaque chokes back a light sob. He's a disaster right now. "I don't know what would be harder or easier. All I know is that everything feels impossible, and I want there to be some solution that will let MK stay my mate. But I can't see one."
Lucifer hugs Macaque tighter. He keeps petting Macaque and summons his wings to wrap him up in them. Trying to help him feel as safe as he can, though he's sure it doesn't ease the pain more than a little. Familiar aching pain that sinks into the heart and takes root there. That grows and wraps the heart up so it feels like there's no escape, no way to free yourself. That familiar aching pain.
"...It's a hard puzzle to figure out. How to accept them dating without changing how you see either of them. Are you in a place for me to help you figure it out? I'm here to try my best if you are now, or later. I'm so sorry, love. I know you didn't curse yourself. Things just seem to happen, beside everyone's best intentions."
The wings help a little, which is to say as much as anything could. Macaque keeps burrowing against his mate. He feels so empty and desolate right now.
"Yes, please. Please try to help me figure this out. I didn't want to break up, and I don't want to stay broken up. I've been wracking my brain to try and get it to let things work."
Lucifer keeps wings and arms wrapped around his mate. He starts to think on how to help with this. To help them return to one another with his intact. Ending the relationship between Mk and Wylan isn't an answer. Can't go down that route. It's how to help Macaque perhaps accept not a full change but an openness to transition?
"Kids grow up, even though for you they may seem the same. Could you see yourself acknowledging that Wylan is growing into adulthood, if possible?"
Macaque curls up on Lucifer, exhausted and distraught.
"I can... but in the same way that my children are growing up and coming into early adulthood. I associate him with my children, in that same grouping. Especially since he's between the two of them in age."
"Wash and I are nowhere close to that. But... potentially, perhaps. Yes, it's something that crossed my mind now and then once Wash and I started growing closer and got together officially."
That complicates things. Very much complicates things if that is the possible future. Or inevitable, given how in sync Wash and Macaque already are and they're still exploring their relationship. Which makes this problem all the more delicate. How can he convince Macaque to not see Wylan as a child when he has thought about adopting him as another of his children? And then work to separate that from his mate, Mk, being in a relationship with that same Wylan.
Lucifer is quiet as he tries to think how to untangle this problem but he's only succeeded as making it even more tangled in his own mind.
Yeah, it's a pickle isn't it? Macaque hasn't been so presumptuous as to see him and Wash being a family unit, nor that Wylan would necessarily want another parent, but the thought is there all the same. The potential. A future he could maybe have wanted, until today.
"Yes. When we first met. Until a little past finding out that he was interested in me. When I learned that, I had to rework my image of him entirely."
"He was a kid to me. A student. And then I learned that Red and he were together. Red, who is immortal like me, who is closer to my age than not. Who I see as a peer. That helped. Trying to think of MK as a legal adult according to human society helped some. And some of it was just spending time with him and considering what it might be like to be with him -- sexually, I mean. Emotionally, at the time, I was nowhere near ready. It was a slow process, and I fought myself most of the way."
So it was part thanks to Red Son, that makes sense. Also Mk's adult feelings and just spending time thinking of him that light. Lucifer will need to think how that could be used to help transfer the ideas to Wylan, if that was possible. Though since Wylan feels connected to his own kids, that might be another angle.
"Alright. And your kids. As they grow, they will always be your children but you do acknowledge they will also become adults as well, right? I ask not in a judging way but in trying to help me follow your logic to help you with unraveling all of this."
"I mean, of course you wouldn't. I just wanted to get a feel that adulthood and seeing them as your children and your peers at the same time is the future," Lucifer clarified. He ran his fingers through Macaque's hair and kissed his forehead.
"What if say Choco-chan and Red Son became close? Can you think on that for a moment and tell me how that would also make you feel?"
"Of course not," Lucifer knew he could never give up Charlie as his daughter. Of course Macaque couldn't give her up. This was a very hard problem to untangle.
"I will admit, this is very much a tricky problem."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-02 11:36 pm (UTC)Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-02 11:38 pm (UTC)Thanks. Fair warning, I'm a bit of a mess.
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-02 11:40 pm (UTC)[It isn't long before a portal opens and Lucifer steps through. He sees Macaque and takes him in for a moment before moving quickly to his side, setting down his bags nearby.]
Do you want to tell me what happened first or do you need physical contact and quiet first?
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-02 11:56 pm (UTC)"Can we do both at once?" It's a plaintive request from someone who is completely miserable.
"MK and I broke up."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 12:28 am (UTC)"What happened?"
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 12:32 am (UTC)"He told me that he's dating Wylan. A kid, and my boyfriend's kid. And I--"
"When I first met MK, he was a kid to me. It took a lot of mental work to see him as a peer instead, after I found out he was interested in me. And now, with him dating someone younger than my daughter, and the son of my significant other..."
"And I couldn't ask him to break things off with Wylan. The poor boy would be even more miserable than he already is."
He burrows against Lucifer's shoulder. "I said maybe we should think about it for a while, see what we can do, but he wanted to break things off while we try and see if there's a way around it. I think he thinks that having that conversation again would be even harder."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 12:41 am (UTC)"And now that he's dating someone you see as a child, especially Wash's son, it weakens what you did to bring MK up as a peer in your eyes." It sounds complicated and horribly painful, to lose something they both seemed to fight for for so long.
"Perhaps for him it would be? I don't know. What about you? Do you think that would be harder or easier if another solution couldn't be found?"
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 12:46 am (UTC)"Yeah. I'm not sure I can do the mental gymnastics to see MK as my peer when he's with Wylan, while I see Wylan as a kid. It seems like something big would have to change in my mind, and I just don't know. It's all making my head spin, and I miss MK terribly." Even though it's only been a few hours.
"I was just saying how happy I was. It's like I cursed myself."
Macaque chokes back a light sob. He's a disaster right now. "I don't know what would be harder or easier. All I know is that everything feels impossible, and I want there to be some solution that will let MK stay my mate. But I can't see one."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 01:15 am (UTC)"...It's a hard puzzle to figure out. How to accept them dating without changing how you see either of them. Are you in a place for me to help you figure it out? I'm here to try my best if you are now, or later. I'm so sorry, love. I know you didn't curse yourself. Things just seem to happen, beside everyone's best intentions."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 01:21 am (UTC)"Yes, please. Please try to help me figure this out. I didn't want to break up, and I don't want to stay broken up. I've been wracking my brain to try and get it to let things work."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 03:56 am (UTC)"Kids grow up, even though for you they may seem the same. Could you see yourself acknowledging that Wylan is growing into adulthood, if possible?"
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 03:59 am (UTC)"I can... but in the same way that my children are growing up and coming into early adulthood. I associate him with my children, in that same grouping. Especially since he's between the two of them in age."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:01 am (UTC)"Do you see him as a child who may become one of your own kids one day? Joining that family unit?"
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:04 am (UTC)Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:19 am (UTC)Lucifer is quiet as he tries to think how to untangle this problem but he's only succeeded as making it even more tangled in his own mind.
"Did you ever think of Mk as a kid?"
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:22 am (UTC)"Yes. When we first met. Until a little past finding out that he was interested in me. When I learned that, I had to rework my image of him entirely."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:38 am (UTC)"Can you walk me through how you did that? If you remember?"
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:41 am (UTC)"He was a kid to me. A student. And then I learned that Red and he were together. Red, who is immortal like me, who is closer to my age than not. Who I see as a peer. That helped. Trying to think of MK as a legal adult according to human society helped some. And some of it was just spending time with him and considering what it might be like to be with him -- sexually, I mean. Emotionally, at the time, I was nowhere near ready. It was a slow process, and I fought myself most of the way."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:47 am (UTC)"Alright. And your kids. As they grow, they will always be your children but you do acknowledge they will also become adults as well, right? I ask not in a judging way but in trying to help me follow your logic to help you with unraveling all of this."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:49 am (UTC)"But they'll still be my kids. I wouldn't date one of them, or their mate Eve."
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:54 am (UTC)"What if say Choco-chan and Red Son became close? Can you think on that for a moment and tell me how that would also make you feel?"
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 04:55 am (UTC)"You mean close as in mates?" He winces.
Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 05:08 am (UTC)Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 05:09 am (UTC)Re: January 4th
Date: 2025-01-03 05:23 am (UTC)"I will admit, this is very much a tricky problem."
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