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Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-11 04:58 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Mentoring is hard.)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
It wasn't something I really thought about back then. Opening up wasn't much of a thought because I just wanted to finish and get home.

So...I dunno if I can answer that honestly. Maybe after the first time he used it a bunch.

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-11 05:02 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Just so many regrets.)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
Maybe, but it's not like it's just Red Son.

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-11 05:07 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Wukong 73)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
...how would you feel if someone was so doubtful that they had to ask if you love them. That they didn't before because they were afraid of rejection...that...they were so in that mindset they need you to spell out for them that they can come to you for support...

[He stares at the bottle in his hands.]

...and you only find out something is wrong because his other mate already knows.

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-11 05:54 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Wukong 72)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
...I was trying both...back then. I was always watching him, seeking him out first and making sure he was okay, spending time, grooming, finding him during storms to comfort him, I told him I wanted to spend the rest of forever with him. I only marked him, he was the only one who marked me.

[He lays over the arm of the couch, back to Lucifer.]

I didn't have any doubts. I knew he loved me, even though I didn't know he was afraid to say it. But I wasn't giving him what he needed...I can't give Red Son what he needs...

And they apparently do that for each other.

Which...I guess makes sense why Macaque never trusted me. If I can't give my mate, my family, my friends...what they need. If I'm untrustworthy...it just makes sense.

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-12 11:51 pm (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Just...so many mistakes.)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
I'd like to believe that. But basically everyone I know can't be wrong. That's not how that works.

[He takes a long swig.]

It...makes me feel sometimes like...I dunno...something is wrong with me. People have said they were wrong, or they took it too far, or other people can be wrong...but it just...keeps happening. So it can't be that.

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-13 12:11 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Just so many regrets.)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
I...wish I could write the list. I'm bad at planning, drag the people I care about into danger, I'm a terrible mentor...a terrible friend.

And I didn't even realize the people I called my friends don't trust me.

...as a start.

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-13 01:17 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Wukong 28)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
[Wukong doesn't interrupt Lucifer, just listening to him talk and wishing he had that conviction.]

...then why do you think most people say I'm the problem?

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-13 01:54 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Just...so many mistakes.)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
Maybe...maybe you're right. With Red Son...it doesn't matter what I do if I don't give him what he needs anyway.

Mediation might...well it can't burn things any faster.

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-13 02:33 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (You really need me?)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
...

[Wukong is quiet for a long moment, maybe long enough to appear like he dozed off or something.]

...do you want me to ask so you can say you were asked instead of that you offered?

[He looks at Lucifer finally.]

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-13 02:42 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (If there's still a place for me.)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
Well...half of asking for help is conceding that you need it soooo...

[He smiles a little finally.]

Since you're open to it, would you give mediation a go?

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-13 03:00 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Mentoring is hard.)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
Heh...well, Mr. Mediator, past experience tells me I probably said the wrong thing or didn't react the way he was hoping. It seems to be a thing that if he doesn't get what he needs first it doesn't really matter what else I do or what I did.

And yeah, I did think they would at least go...better. Better would have been great.

[He sighs in frustration, his tail flicking in annoyance.]

But nearly every conversation seems to go back to that. What he needs and that I don't fuck it up. Or what I need to change or do better with. Except after I...died. And when he showed me his ideal future.

Re: Voice - Five DaysPost-Red Son Talk

Date: 2024-07-13 03:04 am (UTC)
retirementsnotsopeachy: (Carrying a heavy burden.)
From: [personal profile] retirementsnotsopeachy
It was him with his and MK and Saya's...I'll be surprised if you don't know her...but their kids. A big home, with Macaque and I there. Just everyone being a family.

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